Double Standards

Category: Let's talk

Post 1 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Thursday, 15-Jun-2006 8:44:37

Is there any difference between a man hitting a woman, and a woman hitting a man.

Post 2 by Juliet (move over school!) on Thursday, 15-Jun-2006 9:57:39

I don't see where there's any difference. The way I see it, either way it's considered abuce and shouldn't be tolerated.

Post 3 by tear drop (No longer looking for a prince, merely a pauper with potential!!!!!) on Thursday, 15-Jun-2006 17:00:54

Hitting shouldn't be tolerated in any manor!!!!

Post 4 by Rune Knight (Ancient Demon - Darkness will always conquer Light!) on Thursday, 15-Jun-2006 19:02:09

It doesn't really matter who hits who it's still considered abuse.

Post 5 by Perestroika (Her Swissness) on Thursday, 15-Jun-2006 21:43:09

I don't see any difference, simply because it's still abuse, however, i think if a woman hits a man she should take it like one and not whine about being hit back.

Post 6 by lights_rage (I just keep on posting!) on Friday, 16-Jun-2006 0:13:13

yep no difference and women who hit shouldnt wine about getting it back at em

Post 7 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Friday, 16-Jun-2006 20:12:15

hitting shouldn't be tolerated, period!

Post 8 by Nage (Your father's friend's daughter's roommate's niece) on Friday, 16-Jun-2006 20:17:53

No, there isn't any difference. It really annoys me when people harp on about a man not being supposed to hit a woman, how that's not being a real man. I never hear any arguments saying the same things about hitting men. When I bring this up, they talk about how women are defenceless and men are stronger. I'll give you that a man may have more muscle mass than a woman by default, who am I to argue how the body was built, but you do get, for lack of a better word, puny men, and big women you don't wanna mess with. In short, hitting's wrong regardless of gender, or anything else for that matter.

Post 9 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2006 9:36:27

I agree Af and the battered men problem is swept under the carpet to such a degree, as there is sadly to much emphasis on the weaker sex being hammered. Dont get me wrong I abhor violence on either sex, the guys need to swallow their humiliation and come forward.

Post 10 by Susanne (move over school!) on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2006 11:26:44

Well, actually, I do think there is a bit of a difference. Generally men are much stronger than women and could do a lot more damage than women could. Thus, if a guy is pretending to hit a woman, the threat is much greater than if she pretends to hit him, and if he does actually hit her, the pain inflicted is much worse than if she had hit him. Men often easily deflect the hits of women, whereas women are seriously hurt by the hits of men. I agree that the violent intention is the same, but since our laws are mostly based on outcome, it *is* relevant what the hit accomplishes. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that the hit of a man is a more serious "weapon" than the hit of a woman.

Post 11 by Bryan (This site is so "educational") on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2006 12:35:09

Hitting is hitting and 2 wrongs don't make it right, goblin I was in a relationship about 10 years ago and got into a really bad fight needless to say I can’t or won’t hit a female but she did not feel the same and got 9 stitches in my neck from a steak knife so after another 3 months after trying to work it out, “silly me” I had to leave.
Nobody should have to put up with violence neither man or women and agree men that are victims need to speak up.

Post 12 by jaguar (Addicted to the Zone) on Wednesday, 21-Jun-2006 12:57:42

Unfortunately, I do believe there is a double standard and there shouldn't be. Hitting is wrong, no matter who does it, and though men may be physically stronger, women can be just as violent and do as much damage as any man.

Post 13 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Thursday, 22-Jun-2006 8:54:44

I agree completely with the last 3 posters and I think although violence inflicted against woman is unforgivable, for a man it is often more of a shock to suffer violence, when it's revealed they fear being viewed as weak and inadequate.I knew this strapping big fella of 6ft 4, who was hammered by a woman of 5ft 0, and the state of him when he finally admitted it was terrible.

Post 14 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Thursday, 22-Jun-2006 9:12:50

There should be no difference between a man hitting a woman, or a woman hitting a man. However, there is, and men who hit women are usually frowned upon by society more than a woman would be if she hit a man.

Post 15 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Saturday, 24-Jun-2006 23:42:12

Of course there is a double standard and, in a sense, I totally think there should be. Men are, in vast majority of cases, the physically stronger sex and in greater danger of turning abusive, against them women are simply more helpless. Of course if we extend "beating" to serious threats, especially when involving other objects the difference disappear, but based on physical strength alone I think there's clearly a reason for viewing a man hitting a woman and a woman hitting a man differently. I mean, if a six year old chilc slaps its parents should that be sent to prison and the parent given a psychological therapy cause d by his/her fear of the abuse, of course not. Granted that the child and the parents would seak therapy but only because the child's violent behavior belied a more fundamental problem that had to be treated. I think a slap from a woman is also meant differently than if a man beats a woman, be that a stereo type or not (not that I suffer nor have I suffered any). I think the intent and meaning behind those gestures is both intended and interpreted differently. Just like I wouldn't be particularly scared of a guy who threatened me with a water gun but I would be scared if a guy theatened me with a knife or a real gun, the former is more of expressing one's feelings and the latter is a serious concern and could possibly proof fatal. Thus, if the "beating/slapping" develops into more serious threat there is no difference but if we're simply talking physical abuse/slapping, I think it should be interpreted differently, and a guy who gets beaten by his woman needs to either figur out why she beathim (I'd suspect in many cases he darn well deserved it) or leave her, not beat her back. Because men simply don't hit women, it's a simple social rule that makes perfect sense to me, the opposite is not as widely accepted.

Post 16 by Susanne (move over school!) on Monday, 26-Jun-2006 15:50:40

Another relevant point, I think, is that women and men usually use "hitting" as expressions of different emotions. Not only are women not able to hurt men as much as men can hurt women when they hit them, but most women, when they hit, are not necessarily trying to hurt the man. I think men, if they hit their women, do this mostly out of anger. Women, it appears, more often resort to sort of pounding a man's chest with their fists or slapping his arm or something like that in frustration--they don't actually *mean* to hit him, they are just expressing themselves because they *know* that it won't hurt very much. Men know it hurts, so they don't resort to hitting unless it's in anger. So, women, when they hit, are not only not able to hurt the guy very much, they also don't really mean to. By contrast, a man who hits a woman always has to assume and accept the possiblity that he will hit her. Thus, when a man hits a woman, it's usually done in a more serious spirit, and so it's a bigger deal. Of course this applies only in cases where the woman slaps or pounds instead of really hits him, and I'm not even sure I have a point, but these are my thoughts :-). Any reactions?